OHCHR Press conference 07 November 2024
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OHCHR Press conference: Human Rights Committee (CCPR) - 07 November 2024

UN Human Rights Committee press conference to present findings on Ecuador, France, Greece, Iceland, Pakistan and Türkiye

 

Speakers:  

·         Tania María Abdo Rocholl (Chair)

·         José Manuel Santos Pais (Vice-Chair)

·         Carlos Gomez Martinez (Committee Member)

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Thank you for joining us today to the UN Human Rights Committee press conference.
The committee today is going to present its findings on six countries including Ecuador, France, Greece, Iceland, Pakistan and Turkey.
Air being with us today on the podium, we have Miss Tanner Abdulracho, Chairperson of the Committee, Mr Jose Santos Pais, Vice Chair and Mr Carlos Gomez, committee members.
They will first walk us through their findings including their recommendations and concerns.
Then in the second part of the press conference, we will take some questions.
Without further delay, I will pass on the floor to Madam Chair, please.
Thank you very much, Vivian.
Good afternoon and thank you for being here.
I will provide you some general information about the work of the Human Rights Committee in this session.
Under our reporting procedure, we have constructive dialogues with the delegation of Ecuador, France, Greece, Iceland, also Pakistan and Turkey.
In all reviews we have noted positive developments, identify area of concerns and made recommendations.
All six concluding observations will be in our website soon.
This afternoon we adopted a list of issues of Latvia also sees more list of issues priority to report to Benin, Cameroon, Monaco, Poland, Slovenia and South Africa.
About the individual communications, the draught related to 308 communications, 287 were decided on the merits, so ten of them were declared inadmissible.
11 communications were discontinued.
Regarding the communication decided on the merits, the committee found violations in 287 of them.
The committee thus adopted a total of 300, three, 180 decisions.
This means that this year, thanks to the measures taken by the Committee to deal with this **** number of the communications before, the Committee was able to adjudicate 446 cases in 2024.
We adopted also the progress report of follow up to views concerning individual communications regarding to Colombia, Ecuador, Finland, Greece, New Zealand, Sweden, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Ukraine.
And also we are working on the next session of the Human Rights Committee in March that will be reviewed periodic reports about Albania, Burkina Faso, Mongolia, Montenegro, IT and Zimbabwe.
The committee will also adopt list officials and list to Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Dominican Republic, Jordan, Mauritius, New Zealand and Samoa.
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And then maybe we can have Mr Santo Pais to start presenting the countries.
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Thank you very much.
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So we will concentrate on one part of our activities relating to the review of state parties reports.
I would like to say at the outset that the six countries they have reviewed, all the delegations engaged with the committee in the fair spirit and trying to the best of their abilities to answer our multiple questions.
Having said that, I would address now Iceland, Pakistan and France.
I will begin with Iceland.
A very curious event happened for the Committee's review because exactly on the week that the review of the State party was to be conducted, the Government fell, but nevertheless the delegation wanted to be present and was present in the room and answer very satisfactory all our questions.
We did concentrate on several issues.
I would just highlight three of them.
The first concerning the need to reinforce the anti corruption measures.
There is a particular large corruption case abroad, but involving Iceland companies, the fish **** fear and it seems the the fear you're taking very long in courts.
One of the main reasons is because it requires international cooperation that is taking quite a long time to to be provided to the state party.
But we ask them to be able to end the proceedings as quick, as quickly as possible in order for the public to see the results of the criminal investigation.
The second area is the item of freedom of expression of journalists.
Because in this in the in the sequence of these famous case, corruption case Fishhot that I alluded to, several journalists were prosecuted in court.
And we wanted to be sure that criminal investigations is not used to hamper the activity of journalists and to curtail freedom of the press, but has indeed some genuine the grounds to be conducted.
And finally, we address also the problems relating to trafficking human beings because we have reports that migrant workers, particularly those in specific years like construction, tourism, domestic service, were vulnerable to traffic and for labour exploitation and that women and children are vulnerable to trafficking for sexual exploitation.
And so these are probably the three main areas that I would pick up for Iceland.
Now moving to Pakistan, Pakistan presented this second periodic report.
The last review had been in 2017, so 7 years ago.
We have quite a lot of issues on this country.
First, the full incorporation of the covenant in the domestic legal order, which has not happened yet.
Second, to effectively enforce anti corruption legislation, strength of the mechanisms and procedures for combating correction, namely in the judiciary, military and relating to public officials, and to guarantee equality between men and women and to combat patriarchal attitudes and stereopytes.
Increasing full participation of women in political, economic and public life notably in decision making positions and also to prevent combat and eradicate or forms of gender based violence which seems to have some prevalence in the country.
Violence against women particularly and prevent also harmful practises against women and girls and reinforce the anti honour killing laws that are still prevalent in the country.
We also address the issues of reinforces appearance, as well as torture and extrajudicial and summary executions allegedly perpetrated by the military, intelligence agencies and the police, including Asia, territorially so outside the country itself, against human rights defenders, journalists, students, political activists, members of ethnic and religious minorities, public officials, and political opponents.
We also addressed the question of slavery, servitude and trafficking persons, and the use of a control list and measures to arbitrarily restrict the freedom of movement of dissenting persons, journalists, activists, members of ethnic minorities, and human rights defenders, leading to the confiscation of their passports, detention, and monitoring of their movement.
We also were concerned about the overly broad power to authorities to access and retain personal data and to share it with foreign governments without judicial authorisation.
Sufficient oversight, reports of increase of surveillance measures and mechanisms in the state party to intercept calls and text messages of citizens and even the installation of a mass surveillance system which is supposed to incorporation with telecommunition companies to supposed to intercept data and telecom records of up to 4 million users without any regulatory oversight or judicial authorisation.
There's also an increase of discrimination, hate speech, hate crimes, mob violence, arrestment and intimidation against religious minorities, in particular Christian Hamadis, Hindus, Shia and Sikhs, and the use indiscriminate of blasphemy laws.
Blanket plans on assemblies are frequently imposed.
There is a legal and policy framework and procedures governing the activities of national and international non governmental organisations and only restricting the exercise of the right to freedom of association, introducing cumbersome and costly annual registration procedures, restrictive regulations on foreign finding funding and providing authorities with extensive monitoring powers.
There's also a persistent practise of attacking girls who belong to religious minorities and forcing them to marry regardless of their age and the prevailing law and convert to Islam under the ****** of violence which results in ****, trafficking and other forms of sexual and gender based violence against these girls.
And to promote the participation representation of women and persons belonging to minorities in the public and political life, we highlighted 3 urgent priorities for the state party to consider.
The first one relating to the Anti Terrorism Act, which allows the police to search and arrest individuals without a warrant, permits confessions made in police custody as evidence in court, and imposes short investigation periods and trial deadlines and even applies to children.
Then the second area of urgent concern is the full independence and partiality and safety of judges and prosecutors, in particular by using the constitutional legislative framework on independence of the judiciary.
And we have heard that the constitutional amendment has been just approved, which raises, in our view, significant concerns for the independence both of the judiciary and the public prosecution.
And finally, the third area of urgent concern for us is the arbitrary restrictions in law, in practise and freedom of expression online and offline.
The broad and alarmingly frequent use of Internet shutdowns, blocking of websites and online resources and ban on social media platforms, sometimes singling very young Internet users.
I now move to France.
France.
We also have quite a number of issues to deal with.
The first one relating to the implementation of the committee's views, because the official position of the government is that our views are just advisory opinions, not to be they are not to be seen as mandatory.
We consider otherwise, and none of our views have been so far implemented by the State party.
We're also concerned about the frequent racial profiling in the context of the identity cheques by law enforcement officials.
The use of administrative police measures on the basis of strict information to deprive persons suspected of involvement in terrorist activities of their rights under the Covenant, including the rights to freedom of movement and association and the right to privacy.
Persistence of prison overcrowding and the poor.
Material conditions in many places of deprivation of liberty, particularly in the overseas territories, including administrative detention centres.
The need to strengthen efforts to ensure access to adequate housing in dignified conditions and to put an end to the heel treatment phase by asylum seekers and irregular migrants in border areas, in particular on the Franco British border and in my yacht providing for alternative measures to administrative detention.
Reports that foreign nationals, including unaccompanied children, are regularly forcibly return in an expeditious manner to the French Italian border without having legal access to a proper asylum procedure, including information on their rights and the right to challenge the measures imposed on them.
A significant concern on independence, such as the judiciary and the public prosecution, particularly the public prosecution, which still is, and the direct supervision of the Minister of Justice Gaudi Sou.
The fact that surveillance of activities have significantly increased permitting under the new law on on surveillance, which, in our view, don't respect sufficiently the principles of legality, proportionality in, in and necessity, namely for the use of Jones equipped with cameras by law enforcement agencies and on the basis of the decision by the prefect, with a very broad scope of application, including at demonstrations.
The new the need to review legislation receiving the wearing of conspicuous religious symbols, revealing its necessity and proportionality and refraining from extending the scope of restrictions, including to amateur and professional sport, due to the discriminatory effect in practise and the impact of these measures on members of religious minorities, in particular Muslim women and girls.
The Acts of August 2021 consolidating respect for the principle of the Republic.
The so-called Separatism Act, which reportedly has been used to dissolve civil society organisations, including those promoting freedom of belief and non discrimination.
The law on separatism introduces a a so-called republican commitment contract as a condition for receiving public funding, under which associations can have public funding withdrawn for failing to comply with a legally vague definition of republican commitment, and that judicial appeals can only be thought lodged after funding has been withdrawn.
And allegations that the exercise of the right of peaceful assembly has been Hanford by the increased number of arbitrary controls and the rest have demonstrated, including in areas close to where demonstrations are held.
And by the increased number of demonstrations banned by the authorities on the base of an alleged ****** to public order.
Including recent demonstrations in support of the Palestinian people.
Allegations of excessive use of force during law enforcement operations at demonstrations both in mainland France and in the overseas territories.
And also that in the context of demonstrations, incidents have been reported, for instance, in New Caledonia since May 2024.
Against the draught constitutional law on the mystification of the electoral body, some which are turned violent and the law agencies have reportedly used excessive use of force, as a result of which a number of people, including ten Indigenous scan acts and two shundams, have lost their lives and hundreds of others have been insured.
And concerns about the lack of effective political participation and consultation measures for the indigenous scanning people, with a view to obtaining their free prior informed consent to the adoption of laws or other measures affecting their rights.
The three urgent priority recommendations for the State party is to revise the legal framework, block trains and operation procedures governing the use of force by law enforcement officials, including the use of firearms and intimidate weapons.
Disproportionally effective members of certain minority groups, in particular people of African descent and of Arab to origin indigenous peoples and migrants.
And the second area of concern the Since the Hamas attacks in October 2023, a number of political, trade union and association leaders have been prosecuted for apologising for terrorism and offence under Article 42125 of the Criminal Code, which prohibits directly provoking acts of terrorism or public apologising for such acts, even when such an apologies merely recall the context in which the attacks were committed.
And there has been a significant increase in the number of ***** defamation proceedings known as SLAPS, aimed at intimidating, silencing and financially exhausting human rights defenders and trade unionists.
And finally, notwithstanding the revisions made and to the national Law Enforcement scheme in 2021 concerning the framework for the use of intimidate happens in permissible metals, the Committee expressed its serious concern about their use in practise, often outside the regulatory and legal framework, regularly causing serious injuries, including during recent demonstrations against pension reforms in 2023.
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Now we'll have Mr Gomez to talk about Ecuador, Greece and Turkey.
Thank you very much and good afternoon, everybody.
Thank you for your presence here in the room and online especially.
Thank you very much for your interest in the task of our committee and on in human rights.
I'm going to talk first of all about the results of her examination or review on the state of Turkey.
The first big issue, the first concern is related to the independence of the judiciary, because after the 2016 gutta attempt, 4664 judges and prosecutors were dismissed.
It means that 30% more or less of the judiciary.
The Council of Judges and Prosecutors, which is the governing body of the judiciary, is composed by 13 members.
None of them are appointed by the judiciary itself.
And after the coup d'at, coup d'at had done, more than 10,000 new judges and prosecutors have been appointed.
It is not clear that these new appointments have been done following criteria of merit and capacity.
Therefore our recommendations at this point were that new appointments of judges and prosecutors follow international standard as established by different United Nation texts and that the victims of this massive dismissals have access to effective remedies including judicial review.
The second big, big issue in in Turkey was the in Turkey, excuse me, was the anti terrorism measures.
There is a problem with the definition of terrorism because it's too broad and it allows it's use against opposition members and human right defenders, journalists, teachers etcetera.
The systematic denial of the terrorism of the judicial guarantees in terrorism related cases is also a big problem and also the lack of execution or implementation of very important binding rulings of the European Court of Human Rights.
And therefore, our recommendations on these issue of anti terrorism is to provide a person charged with terrorism related offences with appropriate legal and procedural safeguards.
And 2nd, clarifying and narrowing the legal definition of terrorism according to the principle of certainty stated in our covenant.
And the third big issue in Turkey was the freedom of association because according to our sources, 1500 associations have been closed in the last years, including trade unions, human rights organisations, lawyers, associations and educational institutions.
We are worried also that these closures were carried out on the vague criteria in or on the state of emergency, decreased laws without judicial oversight.
All this has had a children effect that deters individuals from serving and executive boards of these associations of becoming its members.
Therefore, our recommendation here is to bring legislation and practise in full compliance with our covenant.
The second country I'm going to refer to is Ecuador.
Generally speaking, we have found that the legal framework in Ecuador is adapted to the requirement of human rights and to the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights.
But in practise these laws are not implemented.
So there is a big back, a big gap, excuse me, between the legal framework and the practise, the reality of human rights.
The first big issue here in Ecuador was the state of emergency because they have been the country has been through six years of state of emergency with informations of violations of human rights such as arbitrary detentions, torture, especially during 2024 on and and these state of emergency of emergency are justified on the basis of internal unrest that has been considered non constitutional.
There is also a lack of implementation of the judgement of the Constitutional Court on this issue.
And we're worried also, but because only in from January to May 2000 and 2435, thousand detentions were done.
Of course, most of the people were after treated, but nevertheless we think that it is a very **** number of detentions.
So our recommendation is to restrict the recurrence to state of emergency and that the measures taken under the state of emergency must be proportionate.
The second big issue in Ecuador is the violence against women, the concerns and that the frequency of femicides and violence against women and the low rate of conventions, convictions for these criminal offences and the lack of protection services for these women.
We are also worried about the under reporting particularly, particularly among Afro descendants and girls of rural areas.
And we are also concerned about the insufficiency of the allowances foreseen in the law, but insufficient for orphans.
Therefore, we have recommended the state party to intensify it's effort to eradicate violence against women.
To ensure that all cases of violence against women are duly investigated and that victims have effective remedies and they have access to full reparation.
To train public officials, including judges, prosecutors, lawyers and law enforcement officers on how to deal with cases of violence against women and to guarantee the payment of allowances to girls and boys victims of this kind of violence, enough to cover their needs, irrespective of the number of the number of siblings.
And the third big issue in Ecuador is related to the person deprived of the liberty and the detention conditions.
Our concerned are the overcrowding, imprisons and the **** rate of preventive prisoners, the difficult conditions within the the penitentiary system which promote acts of violence and the worsening of these conditions.
Since the militarisation of the penitentiary system in 2024, we are aware that 600 violent deaths have occurred between 2018 and 2000, 23 including two directors of penitentiary centres.
Consequently, the State party should reduce overcrowding in prisons, should reduce the rate of preventive prisoners, and should guarantee that all persons deprived of these of their liberty can have access to health services, food, water and rehabilitation services.
The State party should also prevent excessive use of force against prisoners, investigate all cases of death inside the prisons and take all necessary measure measures to ensure that the army follows all human rights during their activity within the the penitentiary services.
Finally, the state party should adopt judicial and disciplinary measures against members of the staff in prisons responsible of acts of corruption.
The third country I'm going to refer to is Greece, Our concern, The first one of our concerns is the use of force by police against peaceful protesters and journalists, including the use of tear gas, chemical irritants, water cannons and stun grenades causing serious injuries, and also the lack of investigation of these facts by the Ombudsman office.
Therefore, the state party on this issue should ensure that allegations of excessive use of force are duly investigated, and the state party should also take measures to prevent and eliminate the excessive use of force by law enforcement officials.
The second big issue in Greece was the treatment of aliens, including migrants, refugees and asylum seekers.
Our concerns are the multiple reports reports of pushbacks at Greece seas and land borders in violation of the principle of non refugee lemon, the excessive use of force, ill treatment, incommunicado detention and lack of procedural guarantees.
In the context of these pushback operations, the detention of migrants in detention centres without any real prospect of return and the lack of investigation of pushbacks, and therefore Greece ***** first sees the procedure of collective expulsion of alliance.
Second, ensure that the principle of non refulament is respected in law and in practise.
Third, ensure that excessive use of force is not applied to migrants and asylum seekers.
And finally, affirm the independence of the monitoring mechanisms already existing.
And finally, the third issue is on human rights defenders, because we are concerned of an increasingly hostile environment towards human rights defenders, especially in the fields of the protection of the migrants human rights.
The state party should therefore and enhance the efforts to combat all kinds of violence against human rights defenders and ensure that all human rights violations against them are promptly investigated.
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And now we can open the floor for questions.
We have one in the room.
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The the.
Thank you very much for the insightful questions, challenging ones.
Let's see if I can answer them first on views.
I will not reveal the canters that have similar approach as France, but we consider that the fact that all of these canters have from their own free will ratify the Option Protocol to the government implies that the fact that individuals under their jurisdiction present complaints to the to the Human Rights Committee means that the decision of Human Rights Committee should be abided by those states, because otherwise there will be no effective remedies for the persons, the authors of these communications.
So the state party refers to the fact that they are on their, they have their willingness to discuss, to come to the committee to present their submissions to the complaints.
But in the end, when the decision is issued, the state party does not fall in it.
So the question is what's the purpose then of having this type of mechanism for individuals complaints if in the end nothing happens For the second question that you use use of force by law enforcement officials.
But the fact is that there has been considerable redrafting and unifying of the use of firearms by gendarmerie police and others.
But the the the the practise has shown that the use of firearms and the intermediate weapons have given cause to severe consequences for mainly demonstrators and others with a lot of people being blind, people having lost their arms and the people have been severely injured.
And the our concern is that the use of firearms should be subjected to the principle of legitimate defence.
They will be should be used only as a last resort and not for the control of manifestations.
And one of the things that we have not seen across the many, the significant three to four years in France where there were severe public demonstrations against in several government policies is that we have not seen on the part of the police any type of de escalation type of approach to controlling manifestations.
But the the position of confrontation with manifestations with the consequences that most or many of these manifestants have been prosecuted for terrorist purposes and violation of public order when sometimes they were just expressing here right to freedom of assembly and freedom of expression.
So that's the reason why we thought that this consent should be raised before the state party.
And I would just like to highlight that the the purpose of these recommendations is to allow the state party to to reflect and to see whether there are possibilities for improving the way they fulfil their obligations under the government.
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Yes, Alice, please.
Unfortunately not so the the there were other cases of use of firearms, for instance for conducting drivers in cars.
They have several persons that were killed because they they refused to stop at police controls.
And the the only answer that the police had was to shut the people down.
I mean, in other country we'd consider that the using a firearm would be the last resort.
And in some cases there, there was not even any kind of danger for the police officer.
So that's why we consider that the use of firearms is a very serious matter.
It should be looked into, upon into it.
Each time a police officer uses a firearm, as in many other countries, there is an immediate investigation on the use of the firearms.
It is investigation if necessary.
The police offer is subject to disciplinary and criminal proceedings.
But in France we don't see that.
We see a kind of impunity of law enforcement officials when using their firearms as if there is any presumption that they have used their firearms according to the regulations.
And in our view, that's not the case.
We can take some question from from soon from online.
If you have a question, please raise your hand.
I indeed have a written question about Ecuador.
As the Committee has mentioned in the report, the existing government has declared state of emergency quite frequently on local and national level, and that has sparked debates about the governmental outreach and balance between security and civil liberties.
Does the Committee agree with that?
And then could you please explain the consequences of these states of emergency?
Thank you for the question.
Yet we don't agree about the this excessive use of the state of emergency, and in fact, this has been one of the main concerns of the committee because the there is always a risk of violation of human rights when the state of emergency is declared.
Therefore, one of our recommendation is to restrict the use of of these, the state of emergency, especially taking into account that their own Constitutional Court has shown that way.
I mean the Constitutional Court has told the government to be very restrictive in the use of state of emergency because if you say, you said you have, we have seen that they have been living six years in state of emergency.
So in such a situation, of course, the violations of human rights can be more important and the investigation of them becomes more difficult.
And therefore, yes, we, we recommend the, the Ecuador the State party to be very restrictive in the application of states of, of emergency and be very vigilant in the, in the implementation of them and especially to respect the principle of proportionality when limiting human rights.
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And I can see EFP could Isabel, you have the floor.
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I I am Mr El Sacco, I work for the Spanish news agency.
I would like to ask on the situation of corruption of the judiciary system in Ecuador that you described in your in the report and how I, I read many worrying details on, on, on the report on this issue.
So I would like to to ask you what do you think is?
Or if you think that the the measures described are by the government, by the delegation which came here to Geneva, are in the good path to to begin to solve this, this situation situation to tackle the corruption in in the judiciary, please.
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Thank you for the question.
Yes, corruption of the judiciary is one of the most serious situations in a for a country because it endangers the rule of law.
I mean, if the power was which is in charge of the fight against corruption is itself corrupted, then I mean, we are in a very delicate situation.
And that's precisely what is happening in Ecuador.
So what will be the, the, the, the solution to this problem?
I think the solution is simply to, to apply the law because the judiciary in, in, in Ecuador is in a very delicate situation.
On one hand, there are there is information according to which there is certain degree of corruption in the judiciary, but there is information according to which also judges are being killed by the organised crime.
So you can imagine how the the judiciary is fragilised in Ecuador.
So I think that the only solution is to reinforce the judiciary and, and fight against the corruption of the, the judiciary from the inside of the judiciary with the, with the judges it themselves.
Because the majority of the judges are not corrupted, I'm sure.
And, and they will undertake the this task and they will fulfil their obligations in it's sense if they feel that they have the support of the, of the, of the other powers of the, of the state.
So I hope the committee hopes that maybe this recommendation and what the committee has done with this review may, may do to to the to the judges in Ecuador to the conclusion that they also have the support of our committee to undertake this task.
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There are two transgender women were stabbed to death in their home in northwest Pakistan.
And then three men were arrested and confessed to to the killing.
And it seems there is a rising attack against transgender individual reported in the country in the recent years.
So what's the committee's recommendation on the issue?
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I think that one of the main problems of Pakistan is the pervasive influence of religion on many aspects, not only of public policy but of civil engagement of people with one another.
There are several cases of discrimination against I told about religious minorities and others, but also on people who might be seen as different from others, like for instance LGBTI people and transgendered persons.
Our position is clear.
The principle of non discrimination implies that everyone is equal before the law and should enjoy the same rights and have the same obligations as anyone.
The fact as a person has a different sexual orientation or identity, it's a questions of their own privacy and should not be infringed upon by others.
In this case, the fact that it is a ****** and the fact that it is a ****** with an aggravated circumstances on the fact of the sexual identity of the first makes even a grievous case.
What we would expect is that the state party prosecutes and punishes severely these type of conducts by people, whatever their motivations are, because this is indeed a violation of the rule of law and the the possibility for people to engage in the public space in a fair manner.
And in this particular instance, the fact that the people were mother in their own homes, it's even more grievous because there is an invasion of their privacy in their home.
And so it would be even more severely punished.
That would be my answer to the question.
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The draught amendments to Turkey's anti espionage law is now pending a vote in the country's parliament's General Assembly.
What would happen, according to the committee, if the draught amendments approved and adopted?
How does it affect the work of human rights defenders, journalists and other civil society actors?
Thank you for for for the question.
Yes, I think it can affect the right of human rights defenders and journalists etcetera.
So I think the, the, what has to be done is to be very vigilant.
We know that there have been some very important change recently in the whole legislation of Turkey.
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And I think yes, it can be affected by these the, the human right of all these different kind of, of, of human right defenders, journalists, teachers can be affected.
And so I mean, the, the only thing is to, to be vigilant and to try to use first the, the internal mechanism that that exists.
Because of course in in Turkey there are judges, the Constitutional Court and of course these, all these instruments have to be used by people affected with these within new dispositions, yes.
Do we have more questions either in the room or online?
It seems everyone is quite happy with the presentations, so there are no more questions.
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Thank you for this opportunity to show how the committee works.
We are completely happy to provide you all the information we have and our commitment for human rights is at the most **** level here with this country.
So you already have the cops online and you will be in in this more security position to know our work and how we are concerned about this country.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, all of you.
And the press conference now comes to an end.
Thank you for your participation.